tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3613525030683671127.post3710098527687074478..comments2023-10-12T14:09:33.965-07:00Comments on The Biblia Hebraica Blog: Ancient Hebrew Inscription from Khirbet QeiyafaDouglas Mangumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15267532075493569019noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3613525030683671127.post-47838752036810280142010-03-30T08:28:19.454-07:002010-03-30T08:28:19.454-07:00The Moabite Stone actually dates from a over a cen...The Moabite Stone actually dates from a over a century later - 840 BCE, the time of Omri and Ahab. It's a big difference because it is in the 9th century that we start to get external evidence like that for the existence of Israel and Judah. Early 10th century has been light on evidence so far. In the 10th century inscriptions like Gezer (ca. 925) it's still difficult to identify the language as specifically Hebrew, not Phoenician.Douglas Mangumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15267532075493569019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3613525030683671127.post-4002103081301147522010-03-30T07:41:37.169-07:002010-03-30T07:41:37.169-07:00It is difficult to see why the discovery of this i...It is difficult to see why the discovery of this inscription is so surprising, because it seems obvious that Hebrew was an established language during this period. After all the Moabite Stone dates to this time, which is written in what is clearly Hebrew or a Hebrew dialect. Only die-hard Bible sceptics would express surprise at discovering that Hebrew was older than university professors thought.Hebrew Scholarhttp://allthingshebrew.com/hebrewalphabet.phpnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3613525030683671127.post-60961382611258889592010-01-10T22:52:16.532-08:002010-01-10T22:52:16.532-08:00A.D., I'd heard about that but hadn't seen...A.D., I'd heard about that but hadn't seen Maeir's update. Thanks for the heads up. <br /><br />Anyone know of any peer-reviewed articles on this inscription that aren't in Modern Hebrew? I know a digital excavation report was recently made available from the Israel Exploration Society that has several chapters devoted to the inscription.Douglas Mangumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15267532075493569019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3613525030683671127.post-59960221105555739022010-01-10T22:49:26.598-08:002010-01-10T22:49:26.598-08:00there is some technical info on the imaging at htt...there is some technical info on the imaging at http://www.palarch.nl/2009/12/gregory-bearman-william-a-christens-barry-2009-spectral-imaging-of-ostraca-%E2%80%93-palarch%E2%80%99s-journal-of-archaeology-of-egyptegyptology-67-2009/A.D. Riddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14011281036644569293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3613525030683671127.post-76650608374011289682010-01-10T22:45:45.486-08:002010-01-10T22:45:45.486-08:00if you've been waiting since 2008, you must ha...if you've been waiting since 2008, you must have missed the conference in October where Misgav and several others presented their readings of the inscription; see Maeir's report at gath.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/qeiyafah-inscription-update/A.D. Riddlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14011281036644569293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3613525030683671127.post-53350858170354597932010-01-10T22:01:40.995-08:002010-01-10T22:01:40.995-08:00The way some biblicists squeeze this kind of evide...The way some biblicists squeeze this kind of evidence for far-flung claims is embarrassing. I'm glad to see some level-headed caution here about the implications of this tiny inscription. New inscribed objects are always welcome. But in a field so starved for new evidence, I cringe at the first wave of "expert" opinions that come in, especially from the blogosphere. . . .Alan Lenzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16361320688190031978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3613525030683671127.post-51001413201648440292010-01-09T16:12:33.731-08:002010-01-09T16:12:33.731-08:00rob, you're right. I see the "al ta'a...rob, you're right. I see the "al ta'as" right away looking left to right. thanks.Douglas Mangumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15267532075493569019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3613525030683671127.post-28490666959692395212010-01-09T15:53:37.913-08:002010-01-09T15:53:37.913-08:00Sigh -- another edit (or better, addition) to my c...Sigh -- another edit (or better, addition) to my comment: the purpose of saying read it left-to-right was that 1) this is a feature of early Canaanite writing (could go either way or even boustrephodon) and 2) 'al ta'as "don't do" is pretty clear, hence the isogloss.Robert Holmstedthttp://individual.utoronto.ca/holmstedtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3613525030683671127.post-36014024389778985352010-01-09T15:50:57.063-08:002010-01-09T15:50:57.063-08:00Oops -- I meant left-to-right (like English)Oops -- I meant left-to-right (like English)Robert Holmstedthttp://individual.utoronto.ca/holmstedtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3613525030683671127.post-32904648851273156322010-01-09T15:49:32.573-08:002010-01-09T15:49:32.573-08:00Read it right-to-left.
And Tel Zayit and Izbet Sa...Read it right-to-left. <br />And Tel Zayit and Izbet Sartah would be better for paleographical comparison than Gezer.Robert Holmstedthttp://individual.utoronto.ca/holmstedtnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3613525030683671127.post-23648490476085549772010-01-08T08:59:15.162-08:002010-01-08T08:59:15.162-08:00And the very passionate reactions started; this po...And the very passionate reactions started; this pocked issues dear to the hearts ( the same that we see sometimes by the very-maximalists). This is the face of unilateralism.<br />This only makes project your more balanced approach, Doug.informadordeopiniaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06489998336259307860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3613525030683671127.post-62004761364701701702010-01-08T04:15:23.576-08:002010-01-08T04:15:23.576-08:00ops, no patronage, clientelism. Sorryops, no patronage, clientelism. Sorryinformadordeopiniaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06489998336259307860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3613525030683671127.post-67694269073587747182010-01-08T04:11:20.096-08:002010-01-08T04:11:20.096-08:00The minimalist will react with extreme passion, tr...The minimalist will react with extreme passion, trying to camouflage in superficially scientific jargon. You, as usual, managed to bring balanced weights. Very good.<br />The text seems to endorse the background of a structured society, with patronage as it portrayed in the primary sources, in which patrons of Israel could be self-critical through its spokesmen and empathetic to the less fortunate, even without direct poke and explicitly the structure itself.informadordeopiniaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06489998336259307860noreply@blogger.com